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Thanks for sharing--one of the true and much needed ways to bring our time together much closer to where I am now. And, oh, how "just too worried about themselves altogether" rings true. What you expose through the creative process of biblical developments and interpretations is the constant flipping and kneading the old into something warmer. This is also Jesus's words of coming not to abolish but to fulfill--"an account of how God must work in the world" of "sharing in the whole of human experience"--and actions that connect faith and purpose to real people in close proximity to us and to the "Human One" callings. I appreciate this post as I consider that space of language between Buechner's take of calling between one's great passions and the world's great needs--a rabbit hole at times. All best to NHV/BDS/YDS!

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In the historical context of the honor/shame culture-how was humility understood/viewed?

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The commentators who have made most of that "honor/shame culture" proposal like Bruce Malina and Jerome Neyrey suggest Jesus is changing the nature of what constitutes honor, in particular. Those who are objectively powerless and voluntarily humble can expect reward in God's reign, as a reversal of the present circumstance. The disciples are, in these terms, not completely wrong to seek honor but completely wrong about how to obtain it.

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