It was a bit side-eye and obscure, sorry. I think a lot of contemporary "inclusive" rhetoric (not least related to communion without baptism, but not just on that), which gets loosely attached to meal stories and the "glutton and drunkard" accusation, isn't really grounded in the Jesus of any of the gospels. He absolutely is radically inclusive but also radically demanding. I don't pretend always to know what this means for us but I do believe it's lost as various Jesus fantasies are preferred to the (varied, complicated, elusive) Jesus of the actual gospels.
It was a bit side-eye and obscure, sorry. I think a lot of contemporary "inclusive" rhetoric (not least related to communion without baptism, but not just on that), which gets loosely attached to meal stories and the "glutton and drunkard" accusation, isn't really grounded in the Jesus of any of the gospels. He absolutely is radically inclusive but also radically demanding. I don't pretend always to know what this means for us but I do believe it's lost as various Jesus fantasies are preferred to the (varied, complicated, elusive) Jesus of the actual gospels.
Thank you. That absolutely clarifies what you were referring to. And I have been an interested observer of the communion without baptism controversy.
What do you mean by saying that Jesus’ conviviality has been made much of in recent interpretation often to bad effect?